tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.comments2024-03-17T23:43:16.326+13:00Road PricingScott Wilsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00834128869502195521noreply@blogger.comBlogger142125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-81373772578278834892024-02-12T10:23:15.567+13:002024-02-12T10:23:15.567+13:00Hi, thank you for commenting. Steve was never the ...Hi, thank you for commenting. Steve was never the CEO of D'Artagnan, but he was a Partner. D'Artagnan renamed as Milestone Solutions in 2017 and was acquired by CDM Smith in 2021. Steve left CDM Smith in December 2023 and has moved back to France.Scott Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00834128869502195521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-41240400579529903062024-02-11T05:20:32.796+13:002024-02-11T05:20:32.796+13:00Is Steve still the CEO of Dartagnan? I met him on ...Is Steve still the CEO of Dartagnan? I met him on a flight and we swapped a few emails. I'm in the Des moines, Iowa area. Tell him: Best of luck !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-4235426525704374502023-12-05T16:17:45.578+13:002023-12-05T16:17:45.578+13:00Well PT advocates may do that, but there won't...Well PT advocates may do that, but there won't be a reduction without pricing, and there has been ample capacity improvements to PT across multiple corridors in Auckland, with little impact on congestion (although it has enabled much growth in demand to be soaked up by PT). Having an adequate alternative on a busy corridor does matter in these cases. However, the wider road pricing is introduced the less likely that alternative modes will be suitable for all.Scott Wilsonhttp://roadpricing.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-57482521127824836292023-12-03T23:43:29.243+13:002023-12-03T23:43:29.243+13:00"The downtown cordon should be implemented, b..."The downtown cordon should be implemented, but in and of itself it doesn’t demonstrate to Aucklanders the effectiveness of pricing a corridor, which is as much about shifting time of demand as it is about shifting mode. The downtown cordon should be timed to be implemented shortly after CRL opens (CRL needs to work seamlessly first). <br /><br />The North Western Motorway corridor ideally wouldn’t have pricing until the North Western Busway is built, but the existing bus lanes could provide sufficiently additional services to make pricing worth implementing there. "<br /><br />Isn't there a problem of a confounding event if you do it this way? PT advocates will simply say that the reduction of congestion was entirely due to the opening up of PT alternatives.<br /><br />Or is it more important for there to be more alternatives to the priced option when pricing is introduced so that those who can't afford it can still travel?Andrew Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16938498951651948409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-51609991736420879142023-10-30T18:40:58.037+13:002023-10-30T18:40:58.037+13:00Interesting reactions to this and agree it mainly ...Interesting reactions to this and agree it mainly makes sense if they introduce distance based pricing in the longer term. <br /><br />On the point about equity, current fuel excise also has an outsized impact on those that drive more given its also quasi distance based, so hard to see a substantial difference there.<br /><br />On possible increase in car ownership this would seem to be restricted by the CoE (currently capped at 0% passenger vehicle growth), unless of course the argument is they may move away from CoE if they can price usage right to sufficient dissuade car usage. <br />Guynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-72873202421894232672023-03-11T12:47:46.340+13:002023-03-11T12:47:46.340+13:00Yes, it is a good analysis. I'm curious, would...Yes, it is a good analysis. I'm curious, would you switch to supporting a scheme that took on all of these suggestions?Timnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-35172980699153978182023-03-10T08:53:02.352+13:002023-03-10T08:53:02.352+13:00Excellent analysis, thank you. (Cambs Against CONg...Excellent analysis, thank you. (Cambs Against CONgestion Charge member)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-76256916218256622692023-03-10T00:50:17.206+13:002023-03-10T00:50:17.206+13:00The charge isn't for driving INTO cambridge, i...The charge isn't for driving INTO cambridge, it is for any vehicle movement within Cambridge itself too. So residents who work outside Cambridge are charged to leave to go to work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-42701153715974687192021-10-25T13:17:52.363+13:002021-10-25T13:17:52.363+13:00If the objective is to penalise, then introduce a ...If the objective is to penalise, then introduce a ban with fines, don't pretend it is to manage congestion and improve traffic flow for those who pay. If driving is deemed "bad" then regulate or be transparent about the objective, rather than simply being Pigovian, but not transparent as to the objective.Scott Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00834128869502195521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-36890643774415891342021-10-23T08:25:21.764+13:002021-10-23T08:25:21.764+13:00"otherwise it is simply a tax to punish drivi..."otherwise it is simply a tax to punish driving."<br /><br /><br />What's the problem with this? Isn't that the point of urban planning? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-6127527635730536702020-03-02T18:41:32.467+13:002020-03-02T18:41:32.467+13:00It is now 9 years later, and less than 1 in 5 moto...It is now 9 years later, and less than 1 in 5 motorists paying for etolls, with civil and legal activism at its highest. South African government is yet to make a decision on future of etolls. I pass through five gantries to get to work everyday. I prefer to contribute funds to the crowdfunding of local lawyers fighting etolls, instead of contributing to toll gantries that are forced on me. Alternative routes are not viable. Public transport is a joke. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-5656278922081502532020-01-15T20:27:17.790+13:002020-01-15T20:27:17.790+13:00Nasty tax affecting the poorest hardest.Nasty tax affecting the poorest hardest.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03275260794490673905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-21591389140668722322019-12-17T21:24:12.001+13:002019-12-17T21:24:12.001+13:00ThanksThanksSteve Bladehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16203682244584443324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-69119715259417795122018-04-21T02:08:15.994+12:002018-04-21T02:08:15.994+12:00Tauranga City Council wanted the road, it wasn'...Tauranga City Council wanted the road, it wasn't going to get central government funding. The road was partly about improving the attractiveness of development at Pyes Pa, and it lobbied for a local bill to enable the road to proceed. Central Government didn't care, as it wouldn't pay for it and it liked the idea of a local authority tolling to pay for a road.<br /><br />The modelling the Council used was clearly inadequate and of course it's now part of NZTA's network (and tolling system). It is doing better than it has done for years, I would be fairly confident it now pays for itself.Scott Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00834128869502195521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-51820818197641427412018-03-13T06:43:34.014+13:002018-03-13T06:43:34.014+13:00Looks like a child drew it... terrible idea.
Just ...Looks like a child drew it... terrible idea.<br />Just build the ring-ways to plan like they always should have done... and don't charge for it either! It will save money for everyone everyday by just existing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-54402026655667485612018-03-02T21:12:57.537+13:002018-03-02T21:12:57.537+13:00Which leaves open the question of why the decision...Which leaves open the question of why the decision was made and who had allowed influences from other parties to be accepted. These things are never accidents.Bob Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03361630853663656830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-70099743713132485752017-06-27T22:28:28.150+12:002017-06-27T22:28:28.150+12:00It is time again for an update on the etoll saga i...It is time again for an update on the etoll saga in Gauteng, South Africa. The current compliance rate is about 20% (http://www.fin24.com/Finweek/Featured/e-tolling-resolution-or-revolution-20170207) . Civil activists reckon that it is mostly vehicles belonging to government departments and businesses that are paying. Businesses pay because they do not want to be on the wrong side of the government.<br /><br />SANRAL (South African National Roads Agency Limited) has issued about 6,000 summons to non-paying motorists. OUTA (Opposition United Against Tax Abuse) has served responding papers to the summonses issued against its members. OUTA would like to have a test case where the merits and legality of the eToll system is brought before the courts. OUTA has made known some of their arguments at https://www.outa.co.za/gloves-off-outa-files-e-toll-court-papers/.<br /><br />I eagerly await the outcome of this test case, since I believe that the Gauteng etolling system is fundamentally flawed, it is irrational and illegal. Right now I do not use the etoll roads much. It will probably cost me around 50 ZAR per month. I would rather contribute 80 ZAR per month as part of my crowdfunding contribution to OUTA.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-24804390413155651672016-12-16T01:04:45.057+13:002016-12-16T01:04:45.057+13:00Brad, the political difficulty of fuel tax also af...Brad, the political difficulty of fuel tax also affects road pricing, but I think the difficulty is due to trust. Many simply don't trust governments to use fuel tax revenue on roads, rightly or wrongly. The biggest error of fuel tax is that it bears next to no relationship to the consumption of road infrastructure or demand for it, and of course fuel efficiency and electric cars create an equity issue (as to why should people who can afford the newest cars get to have low or free use of expensive infrastructure).<br /><br />It is akin to paying for food based on your calorific output. There need not be privacy implications of various forms of road pricing, because despite what some journalists say, there is no need to "track" anyone. Measurement of distance, with boundaries set up as to it being within a jurisdiction, is little more than identifying the amount of travel within an area. Disaggregating further into charging differentially by roads and time raises more questions, but this can be done in ways that protect privacy, because there is no need for government to ever know which specific roads have been travelled on. A month's journeys can be measured in an on-board unit, with individual roads given classifications (A, B, C) with different tariffs according to time of day, and the calculation of the bill is then communicated to the (private) service provider of the road users' choosing. The only role of government would be on-road enforcement of those who don't have valid accounts.Scott Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00834128869502195521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-71717829741036716182016-12-05T08:53:50.882+13:002016-12-05T08:53:50.882+13:00Fuel tax does have all these errors you list (the ...Fuel tax does have all these errors you list (the biggest being it is politically difficult) but it sure is easy to implement and has zero privacy implications, which are huge wins over the other approaches. Such huge wins that I think it can be argued it still beats the other approaches if you are doing simple road use charging. (Unless you strongly believe electric cars should not get a pass.)Brad Templetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06518625048611734018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-58335759159392633492016-09-17T01:03:34.585+12:002016-09-17T01:03:34.585+12:00@david You wrote your comment in 2015. Have you ha...@david You wrote your comment in 2015. Have you had any additional ideas or seen other articles that tackle the issue of 'linking the car to the phone'? I think there are several ways of doing this, including a tag on the engine block that includes temperature, pressure and accelerometers. What I am looking for is a review of different combinations of sensors and devices that might together create a robust, secure road charging system that's infrastructure light and inherently tamper proof.John Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521905993513300487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-6043234774882567862016-07-25T23:19:09.198+12:002016-07-25T23:19:09.198+12:00Comment to:
"All German licensed cars will b...Comment to: <br />"All German licensed cars will be required to purchase a one-year vignette to use ANY public roads." <br />Pursuant to law the vignette for German licensed cars will only be required on Federal highways (covering Federal motorways/autobahns and Federal trunk roads). All other roads on state and municipal level will not be included. Of course, there will be only a few cars, which will not be used on Federal highways during a year.<br /><br />A shift from a vignette to distance based charging with both options being available simultaneously over a certain period would not be conform to existing legislation.<br />Regards<br />Karl-Heinz Stappert<br />TÜV Rheinland InterTraffic<br />Cologne, Germany<br />stappert@de.tuv.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-7580244472668386162016-07-24T21:39:08.306+12:002016-07-24T21:39:08.306+12:00Excellent piece, thanks John I will post a link to...Excellent piece, thanks John I will post a link to that on the sidebarScott Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00834128869502195521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-57852828143044402432016-07-22T15:15:56.801+12:002016-07-22T15:15:56.801+12:00I am interested in how Singapore will be handling ...I am interested in how Singapore will be handling the issue of GNSS positioning accuracy, particularly in urban canyons. See the end of: https://www.lta.gov.sg/ltaacademy/pdf/J15Nov_p18Menon_SingaporesRoadPricing.pdfJohn Macilreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02006468722727550303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-23380824708462323562016-07-22T02:16:15.947+12:002016-07-22T02:16:15.947+12:00Fixed, thank you.Fixed, thank you.Scott Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00834128869502195521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7940640458972958593.post-85594791845080892792016-07-21T05:06:56.270+12:002016-07-21T05:06:56.270+12:00Link to the statement of Wolfgang Schäuble is wron...Link to the statement of Wolfgang Schäuble is wrong ;)Miguel Carvalhohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10258543636382787768noreply@blogger.com